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I just signed the petition: Live Goats Legs Cut Off by US Military / Stop Shooting, Cutting Open, and Breaking the Limbs of Living Animals

http://www.change.org/petitions/us-military-stop-shooting-cutting-open-and-breaking-the-limbs-of-living-animals#

I just signed the petition.

Help Ret. Lt. Com. James Santos, M.D. put an end to animal mutilation in military medical trainings.

<http://www.change.org/petitions/us-military-stop-shooting-cutting-open-and-breaking-the-limbs-of-living-animals?utm_source=action_alert&utm_medium=email&me=aa&utm_campaign=JqoYDypGEJ&alert_id=JqoYDypGEJ_ddXuqzBeuu>

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Sign James's Petition
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A new undercover investigation shows in graphic detail how more than 6,000 goats and pigs are intentionally maimed -- while they're still alive and many without adequate anesthesia -- in military medical training exercises every year.

The Department of Defense says trainers slice open live animals and saw off their limbs in order to train medics in how to treat human injuries. But medical professionals, veterans and advocates counter that this kind of cruelty to animals is no longer necessary -- and is, in fact, counterproductive --- when more effective human-patient simulators can be used instead.

Dr. James Santos is a retired Lieutenant Commander in the Navy and a physician. And after working with real patients in the field and at the Naval Medical Center, he knows that operating on live animals did not train him in how to treat real, complex human injuries.

James started a petition on Change.org calling on Defense Secretary Leon Panetta to eliminate this outdated and unnecessarily cruel practice. Click here to sign James' petition calling on the Department of Defense to stop using live animals in medical trainings. <http://www.change.org/petitions/us-military-stop-shooting-cutting-open-and-breaking-the-limbs-of-living-animals?utm_source=action_alert&utm_medium=email&me=aa&utm_campaign=JqoYDypGEJ&alert_id=JqoYDypGEJ_ddXuqzBeuu>

Video footage from the investigation is chilling: goats' legs are cut off with garden shears and the goats moan in pain, showing that they have not been adequately anesthetized.

But worst of all is knowing that not only is this kind of animal cruelty unnecessary -- it could actually make medics less prepared to treat real human injuries. "Compared with humans, goats and pigs are much smaller," James says. "Their skin is thicker, and the anatomy of their organs, blood vessels, skeletons are drastically different."

These differences can mean that medics actually have to spend time unlearning what they know about effectively treating animals, or waste time translating from animal to human anatomy in the middle of life and death situations. Whereas human-patient simulators breathe, bleed and even have bones to break -- and allow trainees to practice treatments again and again until they get it right and are as prepared as they can be to save real lives.

Click here to sign James' petition to end the use of live animals in military medical trainings, and replace them with realistic human simulators instead. <http://www.change.org/petitions/us-military-stop-shooting-cutting-open-and-breaking-the-limbs-of-living-animals?utm_source=action_alert&utm_medium=email&me=aa&utm_campaign=JqoYDypGEJ&alert_id=JqoYDypGEJ_ddXuqzBeuu>

Thanks for being a change-maker,

- Pulin and the Change.org team

I keep thinking let the karmic chips fall where they will but wonder if or when the growing evil will eventually engulf everything. Just have to suppose the pendulum swings back before then.

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From: Constance Demby <mailto:cdemby@constancedemby.com>
To: Mark Graffis <mailto:mgraffis@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 11:33 AM
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They were unconscious but some animals began waking while it was going on and were moaning. They just laughed and made jokes, it was pointless.

it¡¯s hard for me to imagine the inner state of these men.
this is not our true home, even tho I love some things here... I love nature.
but I have a hard time loving men like this.
but that is our assignment.

so instead of consigning them to hell and all that which is not my job anyways, let karmic payback operate and hope that someday they awaken.

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From: Constance Demby <mailto:cdemby@constancedemby.com>
To: Mark Graffis <mailto:mgraffis@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [New post] Leaked Video: Live Goats?Legs Cut Off by US Military

I cant imagine cutting off the legs while the animal is alive. Were they alive? And what is the point of that?
the least those military men could have done was to bang them on the head and knock them out.

my wish for them
May they be sent to hell to suffer the harm they caused and then when they come back may their legs be really screwed up, may they be unable to walk.... for several lives until they awaken. And of course I am not the boss of their incarnations, I just cant beat to see innocent animals harmed in any way

SwamiConnieMommieNanda has spoken

I forced myself to watch to try to figure out the real purpose for it and decided it's all about desensitizing people to suffering, not medical training.

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To: Mark Graffis <mailto:mgraffis@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 7:30 PM
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I cant watch animal cruelty it drives me wild.
just cant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=e04Wc7o92XU <http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=e04Wc7o92XU> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=e04Wc7o92XU> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=e04Wc7o92XU> "><http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=e04Wc7o92XU> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;amp;v=e04Wc7o92XU>

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Ed note--I try to be as practical as possible abuot things and see situations such as the one featured in this video in the best practical light. If it would make trauma techs better at their job in saving human lives, then I could see some value in practices such as this. However, as pointed out at the end of the video, there is no need for such practices anymore. It is obvious that the only benefit to such practices is to de-sensitize and mentally condition soldiers into having no feelings about causing pain and suffering to others.

THIS is what we have become, and then people wonder why our men go into villages and murder innocent people en masse???

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